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Age · Nov 25, 2007, 11:33 PM // 23:33

I am having a debate on another board and told them that swords and axes are both the same hammers slightly higher.What does cause the most dps?I referred them to Ensigns write up and they for the most part said it is over 2 years old out of date.What is it?

Kale Ironfist · Nov 25, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53

Ensigns post uses 16 weapon mastery. Nothing has changed since it was first posted, other than the fact that most PvP players use 14 weapon mastery because they can no longer armor swap.

Dr Strangelove · Nov 26, 2007, 12:34 AM // 00:34

Hammers are slightly higher than axes, which are slightly higher than swords.

Really though, it all comes down the the skills you're using. The autoattack DPS difference is negligible enough that you won't care 90% of the time.

Stormlord Alex · Nov 26, 2007, 01:05 AM // 01:05

IIRC, (can't remember the exact numbers here)

Out of Axes and Swords, merely auto-attacking, Axes have the higher base DPS at 11 mastery and above, 'cuz of their higher damage range, criticals, etc.
Because any warrior worth his salt has at least 14 mastery, basically... Axe base DPS > Sword base DPS.

Hammers have them both beat, of course.

And, even more important - it's a truly pointless argument.
All 3 are stupidly good at raw pressure damage, just Frenzying on summat puts other classes to shame;
And they have all got very different uses - Axes kill shizzle, plain and simple;
- Swords are more utility based (compare Cripslash/YAA!/Bull's Charge to a Shockaxe);
- and Hammers are a finesse disruption tool. That can also kill on the side.

Dr Strangelove · Nov 26, 2007, 01:11 AM // 01:11

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

- and Hammers are a finesse disruption tool. That can also kill on the side.

Finesse = bashing someone repeatedly so they can't stand up amirite?

Stormlord Alex · Nov 26, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Finesse = bashing someone repeatedly so they can't stand up amirite?

Damn right!
... it always seemed kinda weird, but... whatever.
I still need fairy wings for my Elite Glad's

Coloneh · Nov 26, 2007, 04:01 AM // 04:01

if your talking about a build with skills and everything. then Axes have swords beat by a ton in PvE because of AoE attacks. but Swords win in PvP because Dslash on a single target is insane.

deluxe · Nov 26, 2007, 04:36 AM // 04:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

if your talking about a build with skills and everything. then Axes have swords beat by a ton in PvE because of AoE attacks. but Swords win in PvP because Dslash on a single target is insane.

uhm... yeah whatever

Cherng Butter · Nov 26, 2007, 04:37 AM // 04:37

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

if your talking about a build with skills and everything. then Axes have swords beat by a ton in PvE because of AoE attacks. but Swords win in PvP because Dslash on a single target is insane.

Who uses Dslash in PvP?

blue.rellik · Nov 26, 2007, 04:56 AM // 04:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

if your talking about a build with skills and everything. then Axes have swords beat by a ton in PvE because of AoE attacks. but Swords win in PvP because Dslash on a single target is insane.

Ahahahahahahhahaha

Yes

Prot spirit > DSlash

**Marty Silverblade** · Nov 26, 2007, 05:25 AM // 05:25

Well in PvE where monsters are too dumb to use prot spirit, then Sword wins by a long shot for single target DPS.

Clarissa F · Nov 26, 2007, 07:08 AM // 07:08

Can't this be combined with the dozens of other "Sword vs Axe" threads? About as bad as the amount of "is Guild Wars dead?" threads.

Swords for pressure/conditions, Axe for spiking, Hammers for KD/interrupt.

Yeah, I thought D-Slash was awesome-sauce. Then I got Nightfall and Crippling Slash.

jrk247 · Nov 26, 2007, 08:08 AM // 08:08

Swords are good for conditions and single target damage.

Axes are good for damage on single targets and multiple targets and unconditional deep wounds.

Arkantos · Nov 26, 2007, 08:26 AM // 08:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

if your talking about a build with skills and everything. then Axes have swords beat by a ton in PvE because of AoE attacks. but Swords win in PvP because Dslash on a single target is insane.

Wait...axe > sword in PvE, sword > axe in PvP?

Sorry, are we playing the same game?

Squishy ftw · Nov 26, 2007, 08:40 AM // 08:40

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Wait...axe > sword in PvE, sword > axe in PvP?

Sorry, are we playing the same game?

I'm guessing he hasn't heard of shock axes in PvP yet or DS spammers(SY + brawling headbut) in PvE.

Performance Pudding · Nov 26, 2007, 08:52 AM // 08:52

say what u want but my shock sword build beats the shock axe build every time. :P

Dr Strangelove · Nov 26, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13

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Originally Posted by Performance Pudding

say what u want but my shock sword build beats the shock axe build every time. :P

This should be entertaining. *grabs popcorn*

A Leprechaun · Nov 26, 2007, 09:17 AM // 09:17

Auto attacking damage is a pretty pointless fact to know. Every one knows what different weapons are used for, and thats all that you need to know.

~A Leprechaun~

Ben-A-BoO · Nov 26, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

if your talking about a build with skills and everything. then Axes have swords beat by a ton in PvE because of AoE attacks. but Swords win in PvP because Dslash on a single target is insane.

Usually I am not into bashing ... but on this one: ROFLMAO!

Stormlord Alex · Nov 26, 2007, 12:11 PM // 12:11